Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: I believe that God has as much, if not more for people that are in the marketplace ministry than if you were standing behind a pulpit or if you were in, quote, paid ministry.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: Welcome to this week's Wealth Builders podcast. I am thrilled that you joined us today because I have two very special guests with me, Colin and April. Hi, Karen. Thanks for having us. Appreciate it. Thanks for coming back.
[00:00:37] Speaker C: Absolutely. We're so grateful to be here and be a part of anything that Wealth Builders are doing. And then as well as with you, it's an incredible time every time.
[00:00:44] Speaker B: Thank you so much. You know, this is a really special time. We just came off a conference together, and there's something happening in the marketplace and with that third great awakening. And so I'm just so thrilled to have both of you here because I really want us to take advantage of the time that God has for us, but also to discern the times and know what to do. You know, there's. Today, we were just talking about, there's, like, room, there's hurricanes coming, there's all these wars. And so it's a time where it can be fearful, you know, and the enemy, I think, is working overtime to get us to shrink back and do nothing. But you guys as a couple, you are moving forward in all that God has for you, and in particular in this business arena, the way you as a couple walk through business. I just want to learn more about. And I know all of you want to learn more about it, too. So today we're going to talk about grace in the marketplace. And so I would love you guys to share. What does that look like for you? And, you know, it's not probably what we think it is.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I'll start and say, I mean, we joked earlier, you know, God gives us everything by grace, but the marketplace does not. And, you know, God treats us with mercy, but. But the rest of the world's looking at our performance. So I think for me personally, when it comes to grace in the marketplace, it starts with the idea that God wants to be a part of everything that we're doing. He wants to be a part of our work. He put himself on the inside of us, and he has huge plans for us to prosper, to thrive, to have impact and influence, to touch other people's lives. And he wants us to increase and multiply, but he also wants to do it with us. And so, to me, that's the foundation of it. And we can certainly break down more details of it, but I think a lot of people approach their work from the perspective of it's something that they have to do versus something that they get to do. And I think people a lot of times see, you know, ministry or paid ministry or full time ministry as being, you know, like that, like the highest call. And I don't believe it is. I believe that God has as much if not more for people that are in the marketplace ministry than if you were standing behind a pulpit or if you were in, quote, paid ministry.
[00:03:01] Speaker B: That's so good. And you know, I remember you sharing that. You kind of had that conversation with God like, okay, I want to go into ministry and maybe you could just give a little background because you guys came to Charis, you really laid everything down, but you made that decision to hear God's voice. So can you share what the Lord spoke to you?
[00:03:20] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. You go ahead, love.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you know, we, I think it was just a lack of knowledge and a lack of information. We just thought if we were sold out for God, that meant that we were going to be employed in a full time status and ministry. And Andrew gave us the word that it's not business or ministry, it's both. And he painted a picture for us of how we could have more impact and influen influence actually in the marketplace. Because, you know, success, finances, they're dinner bells for a lot of people. I mean everyone, even if you're in ministry, you have to deal with finances, you have to deal with business components. And so, you know, I think it's actually a lot easier to relate to people in the marketplace because everyone's in the same place, everyone is in the same environment having to figure out how do I steward finances, how do I do the best I can with the talents that God's given me. And so I think it resonates with even more people, honestly, than maybe a pulpit ministry would.
[00:04:10] Speaker C: Amen. I love what Colin said. When we were young and new in the Word of God and the grace movement, we had zeal, but zeal without knowledge. We thought there was one way to serve the Lord, to be in the pulpit and be in the ministry full time. And so we were just going to lay down what we felt called to and gifted and in business to really lay that aside, that gold aside, to serve the king, the king of kings. And through Bible College and Andrew's Word, it came alive that we were just as powerful in the pulpit or just as powerful in the pew than the pulpit. We were just had the same power in the marketplace as people have in inside the four walls of the church. And so once we actually had someone stamp their approval on that idea that there's more ministry outside of those four walls than what's really contained inside. It really resonated Colin with Colin and I. We are big lifestyle Christianity people. Everywhere we go, I expect the kingdom of God to break through. I'm always expecting to see the Lord's hand working in signs, wonders and miracles. Everywhere we go, we're preaching the gospel. And so as we began to just expand hon our revelation and understanding of what the Lord had for us and what ministry looked like, the Lord told us you'd touch more lives in business than you ever will in ministry. And what we loved about it in that season, we just wanted to get the truths that had changed our lives, that saved our lives, that prospered us and healed us. We wanted to get those truths to as many people as we could because the truth sets us free. And so when we got so excited that God was behind us ministering in the marketplace, we saw radical transformation everywhere we went, because this was truly fresh manna. People had never heard these truths and they wanted more. So it was an exciting place to be.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: And I want to add to that too. I mean, the Lord has so much to work with when we're in the marketplace. I mean, you know, we have a chance to minister, to interact with people, to influence, to bless people. But I mean, you're doing something 40, 50, 60 hours a week. And if you invite the Lord into that environment, I mean, there's so many opportunities for him to show Himself powerful on your behalf, for him to magnify his name, for him to glorify who he is and what he wants to do in other people's lives. And so for us, you know, ministry in the marketplace just gives us the opportunity to be his hands and feet and to bring his presence into any atmosphere environment that we go into. And a lot of people are looking for more of God and to leave God out of the marketplace and have him only be in the four walls of a church. You know, for most people, once, maybe two or three weeks per month. I mean, if you're lucky, that's. That's not the. That's not the allotment of time he's looking for. He's looking for a lot more than that. And so if we'll yield to him our work environments and our skill sets and our talents, which he first gave us anyways, there's a lot that he can do with it.
[00:06:48] Speaker C: Amen.
[00:06:48] Speaker B: It just seems like that when you got that understanding, that word from Andrew, it's almost like when I listened to you, it sort of opened up this whole area of life that you had not seen before. But yet the Charis Bible College foundation really equipped you to do the ministry in the marketplace. And I was just thinking, too, it's so funny because you guys are speaking all the time, you're ministering all the time. And so even just pursuing that business, you know, really opened the door for ministry.
[00:07:19] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:07:19] Speaker B: And I think, too, as a. As a couple, you know, you guys don't have your work bucket and then your family bucket. You are all in on everything. And so how did you. How did you actually come together and make that decision about. And you two. You know, I know Colin is the president of car, but April's very involved with it. Your kids are very involved with it. So how did you first of all make that decision that you're all in as a family with business and ministry? And what are some, maybe a couple things that you have done practically, that really combine that business and ministry together?
[00:07:58] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I had worked in a handful of environments prior to us starting our company, and they were environments where not only was it not appropriate to have anything to do with faith, I mean, even family elements, where honestly the discouraged in a lot of different ways. And so I worked in a couple, you know, very hostile environments where, I mean, you could try to share things, you could. You could try to be the light. And I did. And you'd get shut down at a very high level. And so, you know, what I realized in those environments is they're not interested in people having, you know, a similar experience as far as their family, their work, their faith. They want the work only. And you keep everything else out of it. You keep your family out of it. You keep. Certainly keep your faith out of it. And so when we started the company and we started car, you know, we knew that we didn't want to have to separate anything that we did. It's all onto the Lord. Everything that we do is supposed to be done onto Jesus in his name and serving onto him directly and not onto man. And so one of the first things we talked about was, and for me personally, like being in the marketplace, I don't want to have a work colon, a family colon, a spiritual colon. I just want to be the same person everywhere I go. And that's honestly one of the things that we talk about. We have a set of core values. One of them is integrity. And certainly it's doing the right Thing for our clients, doing the right thing for our team. But another definition that we put on there is be the same person everywhere you go.
[00:09:24] Speaker B: That's so good.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: The sniff test on this is really easy to break down. And every person that's ever been around, anyone in a work setting can tell if this is true or not. If you wouldn't say it in front of your family, don't say it ever in front of a stranger or a client. If you wouldn't go there, if you wouldn't want people to post on Facebook or television that you said this or did this or acted a certain way, you just don't have a different you, you don't, you don't drop to the lowest common denominator the people that around you. You know, you don't sacrifice your integrity or your values based upon being liked or if you think it'll promote you. And if you stay consistent in that environment, people will trust you at a higher level. You'll see much better results.
[00:10:05] Speaker C: And what I love what Colin said, you know, the environment that he was originally in was very hostile, of course, mocking your Christ in Christian faith. But what I, I'm a big proponent and a believer in fruit speaks. Everywhere I go, it says to be fruit checkers. I don't need to know who you tell me you are. I'll know you by your fruit. And so the more people got around Colin and he had a consistent answer, he had, he had peace that surpassed it all understanding. Regardless of what was happening in the environment, they continually saw a consistency with Colin and a calm peace. And they could not reject the root. They recognized the fruit and it would open a door for Colin to be able to share. It didn't mean they embraced it, but there was a level of that spoke spirit to spirit. It said, everyone knows that there is a God. And so when he consistently showed the same behaviors without compromising, it did reveal fruit that had a different root. It was clear that some, it says some of us, to some, the smell of our lives that honor Christ, it's a, it's a descent of death. They hate it, they reject it. But to others, it's a sweet smelling aroma. Our job wasn't to discern what they did with who we were, but it was to show Christ everywhere we went. And so when we started the company, I had been praying out, lord, help us to create an environment for, for other people to experience. Isaiah 60, 61 and 62, he said, I want you to bring others in to be the answer to prayer for other People, he said others can't take their place in the kingdom if you don't. And so he called us in that season to start the company and to create an environment that would honor him and honor the family and give them a safe place to receive their inheritance. He gave us a word early on. You've received yours. I want you to go into it now, into the promise promised land and help others receive their inheritance and to do it in a righteous, godly atmosphere where I'm embraced and who they are, they're continually just helping them reach higher into the kingdom. So that was just the foundation of how we started the company. And it's honestly, it's the overflow. When you're full to the overflow, it splashes everywhere you go. It doesn't just splash out in church, it overcomes and runs into every atmosphere. So that's our heart, is to stay full to the overall overflow.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Not who you're trying to be, it's just who you are. Like, it's. You don't have to try to project a certain type of personality or just. It's just who you are. And if there's a consistency there, I mean, again, I think just like miracles or deliverance or other things that you saw, you know, that you see or you saw in the Bible, success, integrity, work, life, balance, financial prosperity, all those things are dinner bells to people as well.
[00:12:32] Speaker C: Amen.
[00:12:32] Speaker A: And when they see that they can trust the person, the people that are behind that, it's very easy to embrace. It's when they see people that are succeeding in an area and they don't trust their character or they don't trust that they see a difference between how they operate and work or things that they would say or do, you know, behind the scenes, that's when you start to have a breakdown. And I still, all the time I saw people that I. That I looked up to financially, but I would want nothing to do with their fruit and their lifestyle. And so it repels you. Just the opposite is true as well. When people see true integrity and they see true character and not that people don't make mistakes, but they see the heart behind it.
It's a dinner bell. And we've experienced that people are drawn to godly success and character that actually cares more about other people than they do the finances.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: That is so awesome. I love that. It's authenticity. I didn't once hear you say that. We require everybody to hear preaching or anything like that. But it's by your life and the way you Treat people that. That's so wonderful. And, you know, I have the privilege of knowing both of you. Some of you know, too, because you've listened to them. But you guys live every aspect of your life out of that integrity and that authenticity, whether it's with your children. You were telling me this story about the airport when you guys, like, twice you got back to the airport and your car was gone.
[00:13:55] Speaker C: Oh, yes.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: Do you remember that? And when you told me this, I'd be like, I think I'd be losing it, you know? And you guys are just like, walking.
[00:14:04] Speaker C: Through it was fun. We used it as an exercise to hear the voice of God. We're like, we're expecting words of knowledge. We're expecting the Lord to give us wisdom and direct us in the best pathway. Yeah. So it's incredible. Everything that we do can be a learning experience to draw closer to the heart of the Father. So, yeah, it was incredible.
[00:14:22] Speaker B: Even when your car gets towed or moved and you don't know it after, you're hitting back in the middle of the night from vacation.
[00:14:28] Speaker A: Two for two.
[00:14:30] Speaker C: It was here this week that we got home and our car was in its rightful place. We even took pictures. We're like, we know where this is parked.
[00:14:36] Speaker B: So that is so good. One of the other things that I really wanted to hear from you on is when we hear about grace and the idea that we might have in the workplace, I can't correct people. I can't make difficult decisions. I can't fire anybody.
So with that, can you just help us? How do you. How do you go in your walk with God into situations, applying grace, and have to make some of these tough decisions?
[00:15:05] Speaker C: Great question. Great question.
[00:15:06] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, we've learned this one the hard way, honestly, because we have had seasons before where we've tried to operate in just the highest level of grace and mercy, and we typically do. But it doesn't help people not to tell them the truth. It doesn't help people. People to try to hide areas where they can improve. You're actually robbing them from their opportunity to become the best they can be. It's like a child. If you don't discipline a child, you're going to end up with an outcome that's not very favorable. So, you know, Christians should have a higher standard. They should have a higher level of diligence. They have the spirit of God on the inside of them. They should have a higher level of excellence. And so for us, you know, the grace of God empowers us to do More and to be more. As the Apostle Paul said, you know, by the grace of God, I am what I am. And his grace towards me was not in vain, for I labored more abundantly than all the other apostles, yet not I the grace of God within me. So you know, for us, the grace of God calls us to a higher level. And again, we joke about it, but you know, God loves you independent of your performance, but your clients are not going to, and your co workers are not going to respect you if you don't have excellent communication. And so, you know, for us, you know, we talk about how God's given us the ability and the power to create wealth and to operate at the highest standard. And so we are merciful and we do give people the ability to correct and adjust. Everyone makes mistakes. I love the John C. Maxwell failing forward concept. So there's no question that it's an environment of trust and mercy and that you can be authentic and you can talk about things that are working or not working. But when it comes to the actual performance, communication, follow through expectations, every one of those things is on the table. And to pull any one of those off and say, well, I'm under mercy or under grace, we're not talking about your eternal salvation, we're talking about you've made a commitment to serving a client at the highest level. And if you can't fulfill that commitment to create the right expectation, have excellent communication in the process, follow through and do what you said you do and then deliver the result. If there's a breakdown in any of those four areas, we've not honored our integrity and honored our word to our clients. So. And if you come to the backside of things as far as like the administrative side or the operations side, it's this, it's the same standard. So I think that the biggest thing is if you set the expectation, you do it in love, you do it with encouragement, and you do it with a common goal of helping everyone win. People rise to that standard. But there's no, there's no just hey, you get out of free card, you get out of jail free card because you're a believer or because you're a Christian. I mean that to me is a, that's a disgrace to Christianity. Honestly.
[00:17:50] Speaker C: You know, one of the things I love what you said because it brings back to remember it's one of the things the Lord said to us early on. He said you can't carry anyone into the kingdom on your back. They have to walk in on their own two feet and we found that we. The more that we blessed people in grace, the more they didn't value it. They didn't recognize God as their source. We became their source. It stunted their own faith. Walk with the Lord because instead of looking to him to expand their capacity and to behave bigger and to grow, instead they were looking to us just to leave a hand out because of the grace and the goodness of God.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness.
[00:18:21] Speaker C: And we found we want people. We wanted it more for them than they wanted it. And we found we were doing whatever we could, even fulfilling appointments early on for other people who are beginning to falter and not really operate in excellence because we wanted them to be able to receive their inheritance. And we just really. The Lord spoke to us in that season. He said, you're really stunting their growth. One of the things that we really operate with a whole family and just every, every environment we go into is I want feedback. Without your feedback, I can't grow. Your feedback does not offend me. It does not hurt me because you can't, you know, can't hurt a corpse. I'm here to give glory to the Father. So if I can't learn to be sharp with you, we're really not helping each other grow and give God glory. We're really living in this, you know, just a stagnant place where we can't help others get theirs, either their inheritance or their freedom, because we're all just living the status quo. So I'm big on feedback. Even when we're. We're operating in the gifts or whatever it is. Does that bear witness? You judge that word. We have the spirit in us, you know, in the New Testament. And so we're continually sharpening each other and looking to do that, that with the people around us as well.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: Oh, that's so good. That's amazing. And I, I really like the excellence that you guys attain to. Because really, to have an impact with people that are not in church today, they're going to value the business side and integrity and your character, certainly. But if you didn't have that fruit of your business, it wouldn't really open the door for those people.
[00:19:50] Speaker C: Absolutely. Exactly.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I think. And that plays honestly, even in church and in ministry. I mean, when you enter an environment like the cleanliness of it or the professionalism or the just the joy that people greet you with the kids programs, I mean, every one of us is responding constantly to visual stimulus and to things that are happening. And so, you know, it's not perfectionism like we're really clear there's a difference. Like in real estate you don't have to have a Rolls Royce, but you should have a nice car. That's your office driving people around, showing them that's going to be their environment for the next two, three hours. You know, the way you dress, the way that you communicate, the way that you present properties, you know, the, are your emails accurate, efficient, free of grammatical and typos, stuff like that, those things all speak excellence. And so I, you know, for me personally, anytime someone wants to lower the standard, if an unbeliever or just a good, well working company would say this is a standard, we should go above it. Like a believer should be the true salt and light of the world, world across the board in all that we do. And I think for too long believers have watered it down or like the believer wants the discount. It's like, that's not the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God's not asking for a coupon.
[00:21:02] Speaker C: Amen.
[00:21:02] Speaker A: The kingdom of God is creating wealth to establish and build the kingdom based upon what God said is true. And so the standards go up, not down. And again, it doesn't mean that there's a harshness, there's a respect, there's an integrity, there's an authenticity. You can be vulnerable, you can talk about things, you can work through things, but at the end of the day, there's got to be a commensurate response of I'm going to try harder, I'm going to do better, I'm going to get professional development in this area. If I'm falling short, I'm going to ask someone else to help train me or mentor me. And if that's the way you approach it, then God's going to be glorified in what we do. And if the other side's true, you're going to end up in a place where the system itself will spit you out. Again, like, clients don't hire people who drop the ball consecutively and they don't strive to get better. So the world system of it has to be, it has to be delivered appropriately. You have to meet expectations, you have to communicate all the fundamental skill sets that go into any form of service or business. If they're not there, whether you're a believer or not, you will get spit out of the system. So let's just address it up front and let's try to figure out areas that you're strong, play to your strong suit and areas you're weak. Then we need to have a Game plan to get better.
[00:22:14] Speaker B: That is so good. How important is it for people in the business world, in the marketplace like you're at, to continue to get knowledge in the area of expertise?
[00:22:24] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. We are big on continual growth. You grow stagnant and you end up being discontent and unfulfilled when you're not continually growing. So when we talk about the. That all the time is. You don't just get to a place where you've arrived. You have to stir yourself up in the word, stir yourself up in the gifts. I love Timothy. It says, give yourself to the reading, the teaching of the Scriptures and give yourself fully to the gifts of the Spirit. You receive from the laying on of hands. So your, your progress is evident to all that is an underlying foundation for everything. It's a continual precept upon precept. And so we look at every area of our lives, we're going to continue to grow, to give God a new wine skin because he's. He's always expanding our understanding or our capacity or our boldness. And so we talk about continually just coming back to the Lord every single day and asking him to expand where we're at today. You know, expand our vocabulary, our understanding, our revelation, expand our relationships, because really we have found the seasons where we've grown stagnant and content are actually the least fulfilling to begin with.
[00:23:23] Speaker B: Even though you've attained everything in the natural that you.
[00:23:26] Speaker C: Yeah, and the Lord really spoke to me in a picture of the galaxies. He's. Look at the galaxies are continually expanding. He is a God of increase and expansion and glory upon glory. And when we're not following our Maker, we honestly lose purpose, we lose vision, and we end up not taking ground. We end up actually receding and even losing what we have.
[00:23:44] Speaker B: So. Oh, wow, that's really good. Even losing what you have.
[00:23:49] Speaker C: Can you just.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: There's. I'm sure there is a scriptural basis with that. So what does that look like for people that feel like, hey, I've got everything I need, everything I want, what.
[00:24:00] Speaker C: I love about it? Yeah, that's such a great question. I'll use the gifts of the Spirit for an example. He talks continually throughout the scriptures, but specifically in discerning of spirits. He said, through reason of use, people have trained their senses to discern good and evil. That's an active participation, not just a passive observation that that's something we're physically every single day using and exercising that gift. And if you don't continue to use that gift, it kind of dies down. And you're not as aware in the atmosphere as you're in. So everywhere we go as a family, we're always exercising the gift of discerning of spirits. We'll ask each other questions. What are you discerning in this atmosphere? Do you feel like there's a spirit of heaviness? If so, how do we apply that? How do we intercede or speak a word of encouragement? So every atmosphere we're going into, we're looking to use and exercise and grow so those muscles don't atrophy and wane. And it's the same with the gift of prophecy. We're continually stirring up that gift. It's an active participation. And the Lord's shown us a picture. It's really just like the sediment or the color inside of a paint can. If you don't keep it stirred up, it'll all settle to the bottom. It's there, it's alive, it's active. It has the same power to bring that vibrant life and burst of color. But it's all settled to the bottom. And so we share often, you know, the praying in the spirit is our stir stick. So we're continually, in every atmosphere we're in, we're stirring up those either the gifts of the spirit or whatever area, you know, prosperity, whatever it is, we're keeping ourselves built up in our faith through the Scriptures and the reading of the Word and declaring the promises at all times.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Yeah. If you looked at professional development as an example, and you looked at it as a farmer, you don't sow your field one time.
[00:25:36] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:25:36] Speaker A: I mean, if you look at the Scriptures, I mean, there's a lot of scriptures. Faith comes by hearing and hearing from the word of God. It's a continual process. Another one that pops up is take heed or be very intentional with what you hear. For him who has more will be given, but to him who does not have even what he has will be taken away. It's not God taken away. You're just going to lose it. It's no different than a muscle. If you never walked, your legs would atrophy, your muscles would atrophy. So there's all these natural examples that are given, given to us through amazing parables and the scriptures from Jesus. There's things that he said. But again, if you were to look at your. Your spiritual walk with the Lord and you were to take a Mark 4:26 approach that you get up, you go to bed at night, you rise in the morning, and you keep sowing the seed, you Keep doing the things that you know God's telling you to do or you to take it. From a farmer's perspective, like you don't just sow the seed, you, you water, you, you protect it from devours, you protect it from, you know, from the thorns or from the thickets or things that choke the word or choke the results. You fertilize it, you prepare the soil before you even sow this, before you even put that seed in the ground. A good farmer is going to prepare that field and have it ready to go. And so it's an active process. Farming is not. You just do it one time and then you come back in four months. And then in the spiritual sense, we're not only sowing daily, we're watering daily, we're weeding daily, we're checking for devourers daily and then we're also weeping on a daily basis. And if that's the mindset, you just approach everything from that. I've got to get a little bit better each day. And again we talk a lot about that.
It's a good game plan.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it's so good. Wow. Colin and April, this has been amazing. Absolutely amazing. I can't believe our time is up already but we get to do another episode together so that's great. Great. So I just wanted to let all of you know too. We've got two special events that are coming up. One of them in December is the vacation rental intensive seminar. And it's a combination of Wealth Builders and Bill Bronczek who many of you know. And so it's going to be an all day event and the night before we're actually going to have dinner if you sign up for that part of it. And we'll have some prayer and words and impartation and we call it for profit, it in for fun because vacation rentals can, you can have it all with those. Also a very special time In February of 2025 which is right around the corner is our 10th year anniversary for the Wealth Builders conference. And Colin and April will be a big part of that, I assure you. So you want to get tickets? It's going to, I think it's going to be sold out pretty fast. We have a cap of 500 to attend that. So get registered for that. Go to wealth builders.org again to event. So I would just say Colin and April, any final words that you have for our audience today?
[00:28:24] Speaker A: I would say just take the scriptures. You know there's two in Colossians and others. But everything you do, do it directly unto Jesus.
If you are serving the Lord directly and not man, no matter whether you are under another person or you are, it's your company, so to speak. If everything you did was done unto the Lord in His name and with him in mind, not looking towards what man says about you or thinks about you, and your approval is coming from him, not from man, I think it would take everything you do to the next level. And I don't see how you don't see radical transformation in your. In your walk, but also in the results of what you put your hand to.
[00:29:00] Speaker C: Amen.
[00:29:00] Speaker B: That's so good. April, anything to add to that?
[00:29:02] Speaker C: You know, I keep hearing over and over the quote that leaders aren't made in a day. What is it? Leaders.
[00:29:08] Speaker A: Leaders develop daily. Not in a day.
[00:29:09] Speaker C: Not in a day. And I just love what Wealth Builders provides. It's continual education to help people grow and expand and to help take kingdom for themselves and to help others do the same. One of the scriptures say that you've discerned the scriptures to steer your course wisely and help others do the same. And I feel like Wealth Builders has done that very thing. So we're just honored to be a part of it, to help us steer our course wisely and then help duplicate that through discipleship. And so we're grateful to be a part of it. We love it, we believe in it.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: So great. Thank you so much. April and Colin, thank you. Oh, we love you too, so much. And thanks all of you, our Wealth Builders family, for being a part of this. I just want to encourage you. If you know other people, people that would be blessed by these podcasts, please share it with them. Thanks again for tuning in and we'll see you next week. God bless and have a great rest of the day.
